perilla frutescens

Liz47's picture

Where can one find seeds for perilla frutescens (purple perilla) which was shown on the latest Fine Gardening December page 31?  I searched the internet and didn't have much luck.

1946's picture

(post #11784, reply #1 of 20)

Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds has a purple perilla (rareseeds.com) and I think Seeds of Change also offers it, but I don't have their catalog at the moment. Also check Pinetree Garden Seeds as they have a good selection of unusual seeds like that.

Liz47's picture

(post #11784, reply #2 of 20)

Thank you so much...that is just great.  I will look forward to a spring planting!

jeana's picture

(post #11784, reply #3 of 20)

Beware what you wish for. Each plant makes 10,000,000 seeds and 125% of them come up. Eventually, you end up with a carpet of purple perilla.

Jeana

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the country gardener's picture

(post #11784, reply #4 of 20)

I was really surprised by that whole article. Ten plants. Four of them are outright thugs here, and a fifth is an alternate host for daylily rust.

Marty


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Marty

"The plants have been good to us."  Lester Hawkins

Karen's picture

(post #11784, reply #5 of 20)

What was the article and who else besides Perilla was in it?

North Carolina - zone 7

North Carolina - zone 7

the country gardener's picture

(post #11784, reply #6 of 20)

The article was "10 Plants to Fall For"suggesting some alternative perennials for fall color. The thugs were a pair of Persicarias, the Perilla and Sasa veitchii; Patrinia the alternate rust host. Amsonia hubrichtii, Heleniums, Chelone, Sanguisorba and Solidago rounded it out. 

Marty


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Marty

"The plants have been good to us."  Lester Hawkins

jeana's picture

(post #11784, reply #7 of 20)

And the problem is that the pics look great and then people want them. Then they regret planting them. Just about any nasty beastie that been photographed well can and will tempt people to plant it. There are reasonable persicarias and solidagos, but one must be prudent in choosing the right ones and must also be vigilant in deadheading if the ones they chose show up from seed. As far as I'm concerned, chelone is best admired in someone else's yard or, better yet, a magazine. In the warmer climes, all bamboos should be planted with the knowledge that one day, it'll be a problem.

Jeana

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Karen's picture

(post #11784, reply #8 of 20)

I like Chelone, though I've only grown 'Hot Lips', which is fading away out in the meadow, and 'Ace of Spades', which got booted out of the ditch.

North Carolina - zone 7

North Carolina - zone 7

the country gardener's picture

(post #11784, reply #10 of 20)

I love Chelone. I have the straight species. The color really plays well with autumn leaves, the fall asters and the purple leaved Ligularia whose name I forgot.

Marty


"The plants have been good to us."  Lester Hawkins

Marty

"The plants have been good to us."  Lester Hawkins

Catskill Deb's picture

(post #11784, reply #11 of 20)

Ligularia 'Britt-Marie Crawford'?

jeana's picture

(post #11784, reply #13 of 20)

I have a chelone that I can't seem to get rid of no matter what. Now, I haven't really focused on eradicating it. Maybe I'll see about moving it to the creek.

Jeana

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1946's picture

(post #11784, reply #16 of 20)

What chelone can you not get rid of? Maybe if I planted that one I could get some to grow for me. I've never gotten one to survive yet, and I've seen them in colder zones than I have. Maybe it is my dry soil?

jeana's picture

(post #11784, reply #17 of 20)

Mine is in soil that stays pretty damp. The problem is that it's insinuated itself into the middle of other things - hence making it hard to get rid of. It's a lovely plant - I just have it where I don't want it. Had I planted it in the right place, I'm sure I'd feel differently about it.

Jeana

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Jean's picture

(post #11784, reply #9 of 20)

Weather conditions allowed my Perilla to reseed itself just once. This year not a one came up. It's such a pretty garden accent. :(


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jeana's picture

(post #11784, reply #12 of 20)

If you have a hard time growing it, it's something to long for. It took me several years to get it going in my yard. When I got the "carpet effect" one year, I knew it had to go. It took several years to get rid of it and, in fact, I still had alot of pulling to do this year.

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Jean's picture

(post #11784, reply #14 of 20)

BTW, the phlox that you sent me last year has taken hold nicely. The persicaria 'red dragon' is behaving itself nicely and adds a nice splash of color too. Thanks again.



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jeana's picture

(post #11784, reply #15 of 20)

Glad to hear it. The Red Dragon will (here) occasionally have a seedling come up, but it has to be the tamest pers in the world. If you want more of it, all you have to do is cut some stems and lay them down where you want it to grow.

Jeana

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Jean's picture

(post #11784, reply #18 of 20)

Would that work for a tovara too? I'd like to have more for the interesting variegated leaf.


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jeana's picture

(post #11784, reply #19 of 20)

Yes it will. Next year, just remember to cut it about the official start of summer. It doesn't root as readily, but it certainly will root if you deliberately cover the stems (on their sides) with a little soil or mulch and not let it get dry.

Jeana

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Jean's picture

(post #11784, reply #20 of 20)

Thanks. I'll try to remember to try that.


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