November Comes and November Goes
November comes
And November goes,
With the last red berries
And the first white snows.
With night coming early,
And dawn coming late,
And ice in the bucket
And frost by the gate.
The fires burn
And the kettles sing,
And earth sinks to rest
Until next spring.
- Clyde Watson
If it can die, I can kill it.
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(post #11541, reply #1 of 55)
Time for a new thread...
I had forgotten how much fun Hallowe'en is with a toddler. Our little guy absolutley HATED putting on his costume, and fell asleep on the drive into town where we were going to assault 1 short street for candy. We had to wake him up when we got there, and press the bucket into his hands to collect candy.
His feet hit the ground and he reeled and tottered like a drunk at midnight before wailing. We put the "head" onto his costume (he was a lion) and led him to the first house. He stood there not sure what to do, and held his bucket behind himself. The folks were quite patient and put a candy in the pail.
Buddy looked in the bucket, saw the candy and got all excited.
We led him to the next house. Hey! more candy! He liked this. By the third house he was trying to let himself in to get at the candy bowl. Then we came to a house where the people held out the candy bowl for him to pick for himself what he wanted. Well, that was easy. He put down his little pail, and grabbed the big bowl.
It was a great Halloween. We finished at a friend's house, and got home with a very sleepy little lion in the back seat.
If it can die, I can kill it.
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Edited 11/2/2009 12:46 pm ET by Dagwood
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(post #11541, reply #2 of 55)
How sweet! Thanks for sharing.
(post #11541, reply #3 of 55)
Candy is bad for kids. Be sure to eat most of it to spare him any health problems. It's your duty. Hubby bought way too much and we only had a handful of T&T'ers. So I'm sitting here, doing my duty as a mother and wife to protect my family from all the leftover candy.
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11541, reply #4 of 55)
But Jeana, you have to think of your own health. If that stuf is so bad for you, you should send it to a neighbouring country to weigh down their health system, force their taxes up, and drive them into submission.
Anything else would be un-American.
Actually, we take all the chocolate and use it to fill our advent calendars. With 2 kids and 2 adults in the house that takes 120 chocolate bars. Usually we run out, and end up suplementing with other candy, which is fine. Our oldest fills her own calendar and recognizes that instant gratification beats out patience. by Christmas all that's in her advent calendar is hard candy and bazooka gum. One day she'll figure it out.
Dad gets all the molasses toffees, no questions asked. Sadly folks have stopped handing that stuff out.
Chips go in lunches. Pop goes in the fridge.
By the time we're done the free consumption pile is down to filling a cookie jar. It usually lasts until Easter.
If it can die, I can kill it.
Certified Brown Thumb, 4th degree
If it can die, I can kill it.
Certified Brown Thumb, 4th degree
(post #11541, reply #5 of 55)
But if we Yanks get unhealthy enough, a neighboring country might be able to overcome us and subjugate us, putting us into our place (and their health care system.
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11541, reply #6 of 55)
If that were to happen, we would only take Florida (we basically already own it thanks to our geriatric influence) and Arizona (same as Florida), and the US Virgin Islands, and Possibly Tonga (Samoa? I can never keep straight which one is controlled by you guys).
We Definately wouldn't take North Dakota. I've seen "Fargo."
Oh, and we'd want anyplace with good fishing, so maybe Minnesota and Michigan's Upper Peninsula. You guys can keep Detroit and Chicago. I've driven through both.
We might take Maine for the cute lighthouses, and possibly Vermont since the french need someplace to grow, and Montpelier is a french name at least. Personally I would want Georgia, but mostly thats so I could go to Savannah without the border hassles, and so I could claim boiled peanuts were a Canadian delicacy, along with the roadside barbecue stands.
Of course the banking system would be completely derailed by the folks down there who can't spell cheque, and I don't know how long folks would take to learn that there were no more interstates, being that there would be provinces and not states, and even then, its a freeway, dammit.
Do you think you guys could adapt to thanksgiving in october? Football with 3 downs? Hockey as a national sport, and living someplace where front doors were left unlocked and hardly anyone owned a handgun?
I thnk this process might take more than one Hallowe'en.
If it can die, I can kill it.
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If it can die, I can kill it.
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(post #11541, reply #7 of 55)
The hard part about Thanksgiving in October is that you poor slobs only get one day off. Our Thursday and Friday holiday would be difficult to give up. It's the only 4-day weekend I get in the year, but then my company is not generous with holidays. We only get 7 of them, or 6 in a year like 2009 when July 4 falls on the weekend.
I do live somewhere where doors are generally unlocked, unless you go out of town for several days. I'm not sure how prevalent handguns are around here. Most gun-owners in the country have something they can hunt with, not a handgun.
(post #11541, reply #10 of 55)
We are adaptable. We'll go for the 4 day weekend, but it has to stay in October. November is pretty miserable.
besides, you'll get boxing Day and Canada Day. Out of respect we'd have to Maintain the 4th of July, and then in that week we'd get the 1st, 4th, and the weekend.
In May we would continue our deference to the Queen by celebrating the 24th of May long weekend, but then Memorial Day sounds like a reasonable addition to me as well. I see this as a win-win. (Do Americans like Canadian Beer?)
We may even start Celebrating Cinqo de Mayo since Vermont is so close to there and it would be un-neighbourly to do otherwise.
You can say what you want about the handguns, but I've seen the Michael Moore (is that his name??) movies and I know you guys all go for supersize big-meals and are packing heat. I'm educated.
If it can die, I can kill it.
Certified Brown Thumb, 4th degree
Edited 11/3/2009 9:51 am ET by Dagwood
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(post #11541, reply #8 of 55)
If you want to carve up the US, remember that most of the well-armed bases are in the southern parts. Before you can have to good parts, you have to take the rest of it, too.
When I used to live in WA state, one of my favorite radio commercials had "tourists" pronouncing names of local places the way they thought they were supposed to be. I'd crack up every time I'd hear them say, "Mt. Rahn-YAY." (Mt. Rainier). You can pronounce things in a Frenchy way if you want to, but if they're south of your border, we can pronounce things the way we want to.
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11541, reply #11 of 55)
Yup on the pronunciation.
We had a guy up to the office from Idaho. His name was Valcartier - which around here is a very french name. (val-CAR-shi-ae), but being from Idaho, he was running around correcting everyone - it was VAL-car-ter.
Does "the rest of it" include California? The northern part looks nice, but the southern part looks a little too high maintenance. How about you guys keep Rodeo Drive and Hollywood, and we'll think about the rest of it.
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(post #11541, reply #12 of 55)
Don't worry, I hear that southern California is going to fall into the ocean pretty soon anyway, according to my grandmother.
(post #11541, reply #13 of 55)
I've been saying that since the 70's and it hasn't happened yet. I'm beginning to give up hope - I mean - uh - concern.
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11541, reply #14 of 55)
I don't know about the parts you mentioned, but San Diego can be really beautiful. The desert garden at Balboa Park is a wonder.
North Carolina - zone 7
North Carolina - zone 7
(post #11541, reply #15 of 55)
so are the L.A. County Arboretum in Arcadia, the Huntington Gardens in Pasadena and Descanso Gardens in La Canada (that's Can-yahda by the way). But I'm with Dag; Maybe we could just transplant the gardens!
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11541, reply #18 of 55)
I've always wanted to visit Huntingdon. Every year I browse and drool over their International Succulent Introductions, though I've never actually placed an order.
North Carolina - zone 7
North Carolina - zone 7
(post #11541, reply #16 of 55)
You've got to be really careful with California. Thge northern part is really nice, but the bridges are falling down and if you adopt any of it they'll want all your water.
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11541, reply #17 of 55)
Failing bridges works for me. Means I'll stay in business a little longer.
If it can die, I can kill it.
Certified Brown Thumb, 4th degree
If it can die, I can kill it.
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(post #11541, reply #9 of 55)
If you take Michigan's Upper Peninsula you have to learn to like the Yoopers (don't ask) and other cultural oddities. Watch the movie "Escanaba in da Moonlight" for a reference. And some of the best fishing is down below the bridge, where someone just caught a world record brown trout here. But that part about living somewhere with less guns sounds good. The Thanksgiving in October part might not be because then we would all have to put up our Christmas decorations in October because it is mandatory to put them up the day after Thanksgiving around here, which I also suspect some Canadians of doing. I've driven through Canada in mid-November and seen them. And don't knock our interstate highway system, it was named that back in the 50's when it was designed. You guys are just jealous that you didn't think of it first! Also cars. You may not want South Dakota either, the western part of the state has the worst case of land erosion you have ever seen.
(post #11541, reply #19 of 55)
Sorry '46 bu #### took a little longer to get back to you on account of having to read up on what a Yooper is.
After studying up (wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yooper_dialect ) it looks like at least they say House and about right, which means one less state to educate in talking less funny. Also they know what toque is, adn us the word 'eh' to end sentences which I am all for.
I still say we annex the UP before California. I am more comfortable with Yoopers than folks on the Malibu diet or that go for eyelid transplants and tummy tucks before they're out of high school.
I go now to work on my integration plan.
If it can die, I can kill it.
Certified Brown Thumb, 4th degree
If it can die, I can kill it.
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(post #11541, reply #20 of 55)
If you're planning to fix the infrastructure, I'll show you where we keep the key to the front door.
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11541, reply #21 of 55)
And at least the Yoopers don't say "you betcha". And it is beautiful up there. But I was actually referring to a musical group known as The Yoopers.
(post #11541, reply #22 of 55)
As far as culture, climate and yes even speech patterns, there is no reason why the UP shouldn't be part of WI. Or at least northern wi. There's been talk for years that northern wi and the up should be it's own state called superior. Now that would be interesting.
Edited 11/4/2009 6:51 am by debio
(post #11541, reply #23 of 55)
Can you add upstate NY to that? I guess you'd have to take northern Ohio and northern IL in order to get us which would drag Chicago into the mix, and that wouldn't work.
(post #11541, reply #25 of 55)
Don't bother with northern Ohio or Illinois, just annex a part of Ontario for a straight run at it.
(post #11541, reply #27 of 55)
This is some interesting gerrymandering.
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11541, reply #24 of 55)
Now that would be just too logical, which means it will never happen of course. You have to wonder what the early settlers were thinking to have put the two parts of Michigan in one state to begin with. But many state boundaries make no sense, like the top of Idaho, and that little tip that Texas has, and the "bootheel" of Missouri. I visualize a couple of tipsy men drawing borders and going, hee, hee, hee, this'll drive everyone crazy. But if the UP ever cuts itself loose from the rests of Michigan I don't see them joining anyone else either. They just want to be independent! And then we would have to fight a war to see who gets Mackinac Island. And talk about a thread going astray, this one did.
(post #11541, reply #26 of 55)
So back to my original boundary - we annext UP and form the province of Yoop.
Provincial Bird: African Gray parrot
Provincial Flower: Asplenium trichomanes (maidenhair spleenwort)
Provincial Animal: Duck-Billed Platypus.
The flag would be a white field with a snowflake on it. The snowflake should be white with a white border. The flag could double as a truce flag for when the remaining states attack to take back the best bits from us.
I have put some thought into all this.
If it can die, I can kill it.
Certified Brown Thumb, 4th degree
If it can die, I can kill it.
Certified Brown Thumb, 4th degree
(post #11541, reply #28 of 55)
Isn't that the French flag?
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11541, reply #29 of 55)
Okay, but we have to keep Mackinac Island, because where else would our politicians go for expensive weekend retreats and conferences? We sure don't want the politicians to have to go without their perks, otherwise what would this country turn into?
And I'm not sure the parrot and the platypus would be too happy about this though.
Edited 11/4/2009 4:47 pm ET by 1946
(post #11541, reply #30 of 55)
Which raises th eproblem of how we get the Makinac Yacht Race without annexing Chicagoland.
I haven't worked that out yet. I am open to suggestions.
If it can die, I can kill it.
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If it can die, I can kill it.
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