Offtopic - Fishing Lodge
OK I really feel for all the folks in the States who are suffering under the current economy. I really do, but I love the opportunities it presents to me. This one just came my way and it really has me scratching my head.
A fellow from down south bought a Largeish Private Island a few hours north of us and has been operating a Fishing lodge for about the last 30 years. The lodge has been in existance since the early 1900's, but this guy put a lot of work into building new guest cabins, renovating the main hall, restoring the fleet of boats etc.
He used the money from this property to leverage other assets in the USA, and sadly some of his other ventures aren't working out. He is being forced to sell off assets, and the fishing lodge is one of the items up for sale.
Now the lodge is at the headwaters of one of the greatest Canoe Routes Ontario, and possibly Canada has to offer, both from a historic, cultural, and scenic perspective. The lake itself is about 50 miles long and 10 Miles wide, with one city on it. The lodge is in a very secluded corner of the lake, but International flights connect to the city. Ie. it is accessible, but inacessible.
The lodge has room for about 50 guests, comes with a fleet of mahogany boats, is fully staffed with an executive chef, room staff, etc, has an on-call list of guides, and is in a spot where as the lake narrows into a river, the north shore becomes Provincial Park, and the south shore is Native Land - all protected. The place is famous for record setting Musky, Walleye, Bass, Pike, and Whitefish. There are a number of other lodges on th elake, but this one is regarded by many as the "rich folks resort." I've seen their boats from my canoe and can understand why.
This is all pretty exciting to me. I love canoeing and sailing, and could live forever in this setting. Now here is th echallenge. Being that the lodge owner was from the US, most of his promotion and advertising was down there. Once Passports are required at the border, and there is a new owner I'm not sure that those folks would continue to want to come up here.
So my question for you - once the passports come into effect, would you continue to travel across th eborder, or would it be too much hassel to have to get one, and have you ever had a repeat destination that you went to that changed hands? Did you keep going?





(post #11516, reply #1 of 9)
Passports are already required for US citizens flying into Canada. It's just driving across the border where they're still somewhat optional. Even then they give you a hard time if you don't have either a passport or something like a birth certificate (and who carries that around). I know because I forgot my passport last fall when I was driving up to Toronto for a customer meeting, and the Canadian guy gave me a really hard time about it. Anyway, in my experience most Americans who are likely to travel for vacation already have passports. You can apply for them at the post office now; it's not a big deal.
Sounds like you're considering buying this gem. Good luck!
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I think toying rather than considering, but still there is a bug in my brain. Financing would be th ehard part, but there are a couple Gov't initiatives out there that might float it.
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(post #11516, reply #3 of 9)
Keep us posted. Maybe we can have an Over the Fence weekend!
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Anybody wanting to go anywhere is going to have to have a passport. They're going to become a normal part of life (I bet the "big brother" conspiracy people are about to bust a gasket). I'm willing to bet that most of the Yanks that went up there before will NOT be staying in the US just because they need a passport to leave. They were probably people that lived fairly close to the border and are accustomed to going to Canada for R&R and/or fishing. We, here in NA have been spoiled by not needing passports for free passage. It's not going to slow or stop travel.
Jeana
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(post #11516, reply #5 of 9)
Thanks Jeana.
I had my annual RRSP chat with my financial advisor toady, and mentioned it in the meeting. She was more interested/supportive than I expected. Even suggested funding initiatives and ideas for private investment. Hmmm.
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(post #11516, reply #6 of 9)
It would get more OTF'ers to come visit. : - P""
Jeana
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(post #11516, reply #7 of 9)
I'm with Jeana on this. Passport is just no big deal. It's a bit of a chore to get the first one but not bad for the replacements and they are good for 10 years now.
BJ
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Thanks guys for your support. Just spoke with friends running "adventure/eco tourism" outfits in Florida and th eUK, and both of them said things are dismal right now - they are having a hard time getting bookings for the coming season.
Its good to know that the consensus on passports is "who cares." In the sailing forums I frequent the consensus is the same. For those who care the place I'm looking at is similar to (but not the same as) this place in size, location, pricing and amenities...
http://www.cranes-lochavenlodge.com/Cabins.htm
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(post #11516, reply #9 of 9)
At half those rates, how many days would have to be booked (single occupancy) to cover your payment? And would you be responsible for all the maintenance and booking or is that handled by another party? We have a place in St. Thomas and resort ownership is interesting, to say the least.
Jeana
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