Hydrangeas help
I recently bought two hydrangeas and they get the afternoon sun for a couple of hours. We haven't had sun until recently and both times the plant and blossoms just wilted over. The first time it happenned I watered it thorougly and it came right back. This time the ground was damp, so I figure the little sun it does get is too strong. Am I correct?
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(post #11774, reply #1 of 26)
I have a couple of hydrangeas planted on the west side of my house, which I don't think is probably the ideal site for them, and they do this frequently in late afternoon when it gets too hot. It does not seem to hurt the plants, just looks kind of odd for a little while. They always bounce right back. I've learned not to let it worry me.
(post #11774, reply #2 of 26)
My ligularia used to do that in the afternoon also, despite being plenty moist where they are. A couple years ago I planted a ninebark shrub on the west side of it, and now the ligularia gets a little shade and is happy.
(post #11774, reply #3 of 26)
Now that's proof that great mindsw think alike (even if we're all just manifestations of Jeanas imagination). My Ligularia was doing fine in the shade of an old Maple, but I had to cut it down; part of it broke out in a windstorm and what was left was hanging over the house. The Lig was okay with the new exposure but wilts in the afternoon, so I have opted to move it to the east side of my ninebark.
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11774, reply #4 of 26)
Hey, whatever works. Aren't ninebarks wonderful? At the rate I'm going I may wind up with one just west of a lot of my plants. :-)
(post #11774, reply #5 of 26)
I'm trying to find the gold one (Dart's Gold?) locally, but I haven't succeeded yet. Maybe I'll put it to the east of something just to be different! They are great plants.
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11774, reply #6 of 26)
I've got Dart's Gold but lost my Diablo last year. I may replace it, but need to find a new spot because the other shrubs in that area have grown pretty big. Diablo left me a few seedlings, none dark leaved though. I like them enough for the peeling bark that I'll probably plant them out along the edges somewhere.
North Carolina - zone 7
North Carolina - zone 7
(post #11774, reply #7 of 26)
I've got Dart's Gold, but don't like it as well. It's starting to come into its own now I guess. The first 3 or 4 years it looked kind of scrawny. Also, I think it looks bad after it blooms, whereas the coppertina and diablo get those beautiful red seed heads. It has the same great bark though.
(post #11774, reply #8 of 26)
I'm wanting a good gold foliage shrub for dry shade. Have any thoughts?
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11774, reply #9 of 26)
Would that be full shade, or just partial? What about Hydrangea quercifolia 'Little Honey'? It's struggling here for me in zone 4 but I imagine it would love your area. Also, I use gold mound spirea for a lot of tough situations and it can take partial shade and dry is no problem, but I don't think it would like full shade.
(post #11774, reply #10 of 26)
Partial to full shade and, to make it more difficult, under a Douglas Fir. I know someone said Doug Firs don't have any phytotoxic properties, but they do. There's not a lot that does well under them. Spiraea would work, but I'm looking for a 5-8 footer. I might try the gold Sambucus and increase the water.
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11774, reply #11 of 26)
I've got a yellow-leaved corylopsis. The person I got it from was (is) and extreme plant nut. He said it was 'Ogon', but I can find it under that name. I think he has that name on his brain because he has a couple of other Ogon things. I think it may be 'Golden Spring.' Nice, but I doubt you'd find it locally.
What about the Lemon Wave hydrangea? I don't know how big it gets, though.
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11774, reply #12 of 26)
Ooh, this is good, we got back on the thread's topic. I think if I went with Hydrangea (which I can't say I'm a big fan of) I'd go with Lemon Zest or Lemon Daddy; it's the chartreuse look I'm trying to introduce in that corner of the garden.
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11774, reply #13 of 26)
I haven't heard of Lemon Daddy - I'll have to look that one up.
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11774, reply #14 of 26)
New to me too; I found it while googling.
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11774, reply #15 of 26)
I just saw a variegated five-leaf aralia in the shade on the Gardener's Diary show. It was gorgeous!
(post #11774, reply #16 of 26)
Thanks, I haven't encountered it before, but the google images are interesting, and it certainly matches the environmental criteria. I was hoping for something gold or chartreuse; most of the images online were cream-variegated; the NC state site seemed to show a gold one. Is that what you saw?
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11774, reply #17 of 26)
Yes, the one on the show had some gold in it.
(post #11774, reply #18 of 26)
Going tangential again, but yesterday I hit the sale pile at the garden center and found a 'Hearts of Gold' redbud in a 3 gallon pot for $8! And a Franklinia for $5!
North Carolina - zone 7
North Carolina - zone 7
(post #11774, reply #19 of 26)
Shut up!
Where exactly did you plant them? Heheheheh!
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.
(post #11774, reply #21 of 26)
I can't hear you.
North Carolina - zone 7
North Carolina - zone 7
(post #11774, reply #20 of 26)
Now I'm seriously jealous; the only things on sale here are dessicated impatiens and rootbound petunias. Franklinia; ooh I want one of those!
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11774, reply #22 of 26)
I've tried Franklinia once before, with a 6" cutting that I got for 2 bucks at a local plant sale. Lost that one during our drought years but hadn't seen a good price like that for a while to try again. This one's 5' tall in a 3 gallon pot -- hopefully I'll have better luck this time. This is really a great local nursery with good healthy stock, but they'll put things on sale if there's any damage to the main leader that affects the shape of the tree or shrub. A problem if you need a specimen but planted out here in the woods it just looks like natural wear and tear.
North Carolina - zone 7
North Carolina - zone 7
(post #11774, reply #23 of 26)
Now that's a great garden center. I exaggerate a bit on our local sources; some are good. But you'd never see a Franklinia, on sale or even for sale; I'd have to hunt it down at a specialty nursery.
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
Marty
"The plants have been good to us." Lester Hawkins
(post #11774, reply #24 of 26)
I had a Franklinia at our old place in PA. It bloomed two years before we moved. One of the things I hated leaving, but I don't dare plant one here.
Your post makes me want to run down to our nurseries to see what's on sale here, but I still haven't broken the news to Dh about the big order I sent to Santa Rosa. It's all Jeana's fault!
(post #11774, reply #25 of 26)
Yeah, she's a bad influence.
North Carolina - zone 7
North Carolina - zone 7
(post #11774, reply #26 of 26)
Moi??
Jeana
Never try to baptize a cat.